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| Lumberjack's thread made me wonder if perhaps we could cull movies from it for viewing on a regular schedule for group discussions. Perhaps starting after the Holidays? There are a number of films I've never seen and such high regard by you makes me want to see them. Anyone game? |
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- Posted by Phillip_in_Alabama (My Page) on Mon, Dec 6, 04 at 12:06
| That's a good idea - maybe make it like a book club? You could develop a schedule of films (maybe one per week or every other week) and get it all mapped out so that everyone who wanted to participate could have time to watch the film before discussing it? |
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| I do like that idea, Chris. I haven't contributed to that thread because honestly, I thought and thought and couldn't think of a movie that affected me so much I hold it above all other movies. It is fascinating that a movie can affect a person that way. Mondays might be a good time to initiate the discussion, so people can watch the movie over the weekend. Also, for the sake of regularity, once a week sounds (on paper) good; but it might be too often. Whatever is decided, though, I'll participate. Rose |
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- Posted by Clairabelle (My Page) on Mon, Dec 6, 04 at 13:49
| Sure. |
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| I agree with Rosie -- it's quite hard to come up with just ONE movie that you'd want everyone to see ......Thing is, what criteria would you use? And how can you narrow it to just ONE?! |
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| Great idea, and that's what I initially thought lumberjack's thread was all about. I tried counting the suggestions in that thread and came up with 11 (you guys count, too). We can begin with the ones there starting with the first (I know, I know that's mine) and working our way down through. Those there will take at least 3 months if we go the weekend route. It will take even longer if we say every other weekend. I expect others will be adding to that thread as time goes on, or we can add to it to continue it along. How does that sound? |
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| bestlawn, If you're going to do it that way...I would start over with a new thread because some of the movies mentioned, although good, may not be the most "discussable" type of movies for a "book club". Plus, you may want to remember that some movies may not be the best choices for a board that limits political or religious type topics. I know a while ago "American History X" was chosen for discussion but I can't remember how. Does anyone recall? Maybe we could have everyone list 5 movies that they would like to discuss or watch and after a few days take a tally and the movie with the most listings is the one chosen. A little summary about each movie could even be given. You have to be sure enough people even have an interest in wanting to watch and discuss a particular movie. Just my opinion. |
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| carla, please don't think I'm challenging you. It's just that I don't see any political or religious suggestions in the "One Film" thread. I thought I was suggesting a rather simple process of execution. If not beginning at the top and working our way down, then we can begin by making a selection from what is there. Everyone adding more suggestions will complicate the selection process it seems to me. There are already very good ones to choose from. Let's not have making the selection take so long. Chris, would you like to make the decision(s)? I didn't mean to take over your suggestion. |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Mon, Dec 6, 04 at 21:06
| I just love deciding to make you decide. For starters, I'm arbitrarily taking the list from the One Film Thread, The Good Mother and asking you for your #1 and #2 choice for discussion. We will take the first 3 from here. This is just to kick it off and does not limit future discussions. Perhaps future nominations be category specific :a comedy, a drama, a musical, a foreign, or whatever variety you want. Might I suggest that we plan on discussions beginning every other Monday, starting Jan 3, and planned at least 6 weeks in advance? Let's just get started and see what happens. We can modify at will. My choice for #1 Strangers in Good Company and #2 Grand Canyon. What say you? |
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| I say The Good Mother and Strangers In Good Company. Did I do it right? |
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| bestlawn, I don't think you're challenging me. I totally understand where you're coming from. It's just that I feel I wasn't really given the opportunity to suggest a film for our "movie club" since I didn't take lumberjack's post to be for that reason. All of a sudden a movie club is suggested and we're using a previous thread to pull from. Maybe you feel that thread was for that reason, but I just don't feel that the one movie I would suggest people to see would necessarily be the same movie that I would suggest for a "movie club"....For example, I may suggest "The Passion of the Christ" to view, but not think it a good movie for a movie club to discuss. Some movies are really good to view but aren't really meant to be overly discussed. "The Remains of the Day" for example, is on my top ten list, and I think people should watch it, but I don't really think there's much in it to discuss, question or debate. (Pat pretty much already summed it up). And, I really enjoyed Amelie, but I know some people here may not jump at watching a foreign film no matter how good it is. Obviously, I guess since this is Chris's thread he can make the rules and use whatever list(s) he wants to. Maybe someone else will start a "movie club" I can have some input in :) |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Mon, Dec 6, 04 at 23:31
| Carla, you don't think Remains of the Day has issues to discuss? I think that the issues of appeasement and how we decide our loyalties are very relevant today. Just MHO. And feel free to start a movie club of your own devising. No one died and made me Queen. I was just looking to make a beginning based upon movies people I respected felt passionate about. |
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- Posted by lumberjack (My Page) on Mon, Dec 6, 04 at 23:41
| Yes, this has been done on this forum in the past. We did have a pretty lively discussion on "American History X" a couple of years back. Readers Paradise used to have regular book discussions (maybe they still do). I would like to participate. I never had an interest in seeing "Remains of the Day", but maybe I am missing out on something. Whatever people choose is fine with me. |
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- Posted by bluemoon28 (My Page) on Tue, Dec 7, 04 at 0:12
| I'd be up for it, as long as I had plenty of notice and time to watch or rewatch the chosen film. |
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| carla, I clearly misunderstood and humbly apologize. I can be very near sighted sometimes, for which I hope you can forgive. Let's take Chris' suggestion for now to get us started, and I truly hope you will participate and make a couple choices. In the meantime, begin another thread tomorrow that will be more specific to this purpose as you say. We can all take your explanation into consideration and continue contributions based on that. Sound good? Chris, you'll still have to schedule us. Consider making a queue of three from which we all vote for one at a time. Then the other two remain in the queue with the addition of one from the reserve bank (those listed in carla's thread). That way, we maintain a queue of three. Just a suggestion I stole from Netflix, but whatever you say is fine with me. |
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- Posted by sherwood38 (My Page) on Tue, Dec 7, 04 at 12:37
| Carla-thanks! However Chris is correct there is so much to discuss about a movie like Remains of the Day. I will try to participate in the discussions if I can, but I don't care for violent movies or ones with lots of sex! I much prefer "quiet" period movies. Pat |
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| Chris, (and Pat) Sorry, I don't think "Remains of the Day" is a good movie to use for a movie club. Yes, the ideas you mentioned can be discussed, maybe on some philosophy board, but there's really not much about THE MOVIE ITSELF to discuss. Everyone will agree it is a great movie, great acting, and great story... wasn't it so sad...you know about the butler who sacrificed so much to be a good butler...no real questions to ask about the plot, no uproars about the ending, etc...everyone will just agree about how good it was. "American History X", on the other hand, (that was chosen last time), was a movie to really discuss...from Norton's acting and metamorphosis, to the ending that the director and Norton argued over. What did the paper mean? How should it have ended? Was the use of vulgarity effective? Do people so full of hatred actually exist like this? Why were the characters so prejudice? What role do you think prison scenes played? Do you think people are really able to change like that? Did you like the movie or find it offensive? On and on. The movie was very discussable. That is probably why "Am. History X" has 888 "user comments" on the IMDB where the highly nominated "Remains" only has 73..."Harold and Maude" has 159, "Pay it Forward" has 557, and even "One True Thing" has more, with 95 comments...some movies people just don't want to pick apart and talk about. IMHO,"Remains" is like a watching a sunset, you just take it in; there's really no need to discuss it because it is so fulfilling as is. Chris, you did ask. Sorry if you don't agree; I wouldn't want to offend the Queen :) And by the way, thanks for your understanding..oh wait, that was bestlawn...bestlawn, thanks for understanding where I was coming from; I doubt I'm going to start a new thread though...I'm sure Chris has it all under control.
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| I will vote for "To Kill a Mockingbird" and "Remains of the Day." There are many on the list I haven't seen, so it will be good eventually to watch something I haven't seen at somebody else's behest -- pretty cool. It is like a book club, isn't it? Carla35 -- philosophy board? Most movies that are any good at all and make such a huge effect upon people are chock full of philosophy. That's what art is all about, in a way. So - in addition to discussing the acting, the direction, the plot, etc., I probably would discuss many things about the morality of the characters, point of view of the characters, cultural barriers between characters, etc. and the insurmountable problem of the character. Drama is conflict, often psychological conflict. That often IS the MOVIE ITSELF! I am ready and waiting, |
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| American History X is a terrific movie for discussion, but we'd have to be careful not to get into political arguments. (Sherwood, it has significant violence, just so you know.) To Kill a Mockingbird also has racial aspects, so we would need to be on our good behavior when discussing that one too. (I love this movie.) |
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- Posted by lumberjack (My Page) on Tue, Dec 7, 04 at 22:01
| I have a nomination that might be fun to watch and discuss. How about the recent documentary "Super Size Me"? I think that is the name of it. Our eating habits could lead to an interesting discussion. |
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- Posted by Bill_zone6 (My Page) on Tue, Dec 7, 04 at 22:04
| Ok Chris, what is the movie for the first Monday in January? I need lead time to rent these movies. "Remains of the Day"? And thanks for the suggestion. |
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| This sounds like fun! I would suggest a film but my taste usually doesn't go over well. I have never seen "To Kill a Mockingbird" all the way through, and I'm not sure I can bear it because I'm so fond of and familiar with the book that I couldn't stand how "wrong" everything was in the film. But I might try again. "Remains of the Day" I've seen at least half a dozen times, but I'll watch it any time. I've watched "Harold and Maude" forty-eleven times. My local video rental place is the world's lousiest. Unless the films are very well known and popular, they won't have them. I may have to buy some of the lesser known ones. Anyway, whatever you guys choose, I'm looking forward to this. |
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| FriedaG, consider Netflix.com. They seem to have everything. It's very expensive and you receive your selections within just a couple or three days. My first ones arrived in 2 days. Once I sent them back, the turn around time was only 4 days for me to receive my next 3 selections. It's really great! They only have DVDs, so if you don't have a DVD player, they only cost around $40. You can get more expensive ones, and you might get lucky and find a sale for even less than the 40 bucks. Last Friday, our Meijers had a sale on DVD players for $20. I missed it, ARG!, but hopefully someone else will do the same especially after Christmas. Good luck. |
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- Posted by Bill_zone6 (My Page) on Wed, Dec 8, 04 at 4:35
| Netflix - so far, so good. They are very prompt. I understand the more in demand movies are sent on a queque basis (first-come-first-served). Looking forward to Chris's Ok to get started. |
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- Posted by paula_in_PA (My Page) on Wed, Dec 8, 04 at 8:41
| Hi all, just tuning in...I'll watch whatever's voted to go first - (I like the Super Size Me suggestion... I just watched it last week) |
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| Yikes, I meant to say Netflix is not very expensive. |
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- Posted by moongirl0719 (My Page) on Wed, Dec 8, 04 at 10:42
| I think it's a great idea. Yes, the Readers Paradise still does a book discussion every month. I think Remains of the Day has lots to offer. Think of it as a book, Carla, like reading Jane Austen, or a period piece. You wouldn't just say, "Oh that was a good book" and end it there. You could analyze character motivations, society during that era and its constraints, a sense of duty, things unspoken, goodness with a film you could analyze the direction, the lighting, the cinematography, the score...there are tons of little things one could use a springboard for discussion. Similarly, there are other period films that explore such topics. The Age of Innocence and The Golden Bowl are just a few. Not that American History X isn't chock full of fascinating topics, it certainly is. |
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- Posted by Vawoodnymph (My Page) on Wed, Dec 8, 04 at 11:15
| I loved Remains of the Day, To Kill a Mockingbird, but have not yet seen Harald & Maude. So which one is up first? |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Wed, Dec 8, 04 at 11:15
| Waiting for a concensus to form, and it has - to get started already! So what say we go with Lumberjack's suggestion of the recent documentary "Super Size Me" for the discussion starting the first Monday after the New Year? Lumberjack, will you lead the discussion? As for further discussions, let's follow Carla's suggestion: "Maybe we could have everyone list 5 movies that they would like to discuss or watch and after a few days take a tally and the movie with the most listings is the one chosen. A little summary about each movie could even be given. You have to be sure enough people even have an interest in wanting to watch and discuss a particular movie." Keep availablilty in mind. So listen up! In your next post list 5 movies you would like to nominate for discussion. 1) The King of Hearts - An anti-war film that this hawk loves. WWII adventures of a Scot separated from his fellows who finds his way to a charming French village. Which 5 do you want to discuss? |
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- Posted by Bill_zone6 (My Page) on Wed, Dec 8, 04 at 12:43
| OK, I just put "Super Size Me" on the top of my queue at Netflix. |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Wed, Dec 8, 04 at 13:05
| Bill, let's have your 5, please! |
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- Posted by Bill_zone6 (My Page) on Wed, Dec 8, 04 at 15:36
| "One True Thing" "Cool Hand Luke" "Bend It Like Beckham" "Frieda" "The Pianist" |
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- Posted by lumberjack (My Page) on Thu, Dec 9, 04 at 1:03
| I never led a discussion before but I will give it a try. Thanks for asking Chris. My five: 1.King of Hearts |
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- Posted by Clairabelle (My Page) on Thu, Dec 9, 04 at 18:00
| Your five choices suit me fine and dandy, Chris! |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Fri, Dec 10, 04 at 13:10
| Clairabelle, You don't get off that easily! Cough up your 5! And everyone else, too. You don't have to lead the discussion of your suggested movie if you don't wish to. |
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| I don't know if this helps, but Chris, you can cut this out and paste it onto a Word document to keep track; eventually this will be long, I imagine: Chris: Bill: Lumberjack: Bestlawn: Now, me--: Rose |
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| Rose, it was so nice of you to help Chris out like that. I agree the list probably will get quite long. Yep, Becket is an all time great. O'Toole and Burton have both been hailed for their performances in bigger films. But, I think this film was the best of all. I sure meant to add Raise The Red Lantern to my list. Guess I got carried away. I saw it in '91 here at the Detroit Institute of Arts Theater. It means a lot that it was shown there, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. |
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| Supersize Me is first, right? I kinda lost track. |
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- Posted by Bill_zone6 (My Page) on Mon, Dec 13, 04 at 12:03
| Would it be easier to e-mail the 5 picks to Chris? Just a suggestion. |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Mon, Dec 13, 04 at 13:12
| No, it is better for everyone to see and comment don't you think? Sort of a "Yeah, Yeah, I really want to see ...." Or "Groan, Chick Flick, count me out." Which leads me to the next nearest consensus: Jan 3 Supersize Me lead by Lumberjack Thanks, Rose, for pulling the list together. Let's give it a couple more days for everyone to respond. First month let us go with the movies mentioned more than once, and then, if you all agree, I'd like to cycle through everyone's list. I don't want to miss a gem because most of us hadn't heard about it. As long as it is generally available, of course. We can adjust as we see fit as we see how this works. |
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- Posted by Clairabelle (My Page) on Mon, Dec 13, 04 at 14:31
| Okay then, 1. Paris, Texas |
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| Chris, I searched at netflix.com for "Raise The Red Lantern," but it wasn't there because - they say - it isn't available on DVD. They only have DVDs and not VHSs. I also searched at blockbuster.ca, but came up with nothing. Calling my local blockbuster, they said they cannot order it. I would love to lead that discussion, but I imagine I would need to see the movie again. Please tell me where you found out about the movie. Hopefully, it won't be difficult for others to find. That would be too bad 'cause it's such a good one. |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Mon, Dec 13, 04 at 15:51
| Sigh, good catch Bestlawn/Mallory! "Da hong deng long gao gao gua" which IMBD informs me is the Chinese name for Raise the Red Lantern, is only available on VHS. So scratch that for the nonce. |
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- Posted by Bill_zone6 (My Page) on Wed, Dec 15, 04 at 11:31
| "Super Size Me" is very enjoyable. Good choice! (bump for any wanting to get on board) |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Mon, Dec 20, 04 at 18:11
| No more feedback, huh? Well, I'm going with the idea that you just want to get started, so let's take one from each list. Jan 3 Super Size Me......Discussion opened by Lumberjack Mallory, Becket is unavailable on DVD, so I went with another of your classic suggestions. Perhaps it is available at everyone's library for rental? Rose, the only movie on your list that is available on DVD is Sense and Sensibility. I'm assuming here that you mean the Emma Thompson version? Everyone, feel free to add to the lists, to comment on what you want to see, to suggest refinements. |
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| All is well with me |
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- Posted by Bill_zone6 (My Page) on Mon, Dec 20, 04 at 21:35
| "One True Thing" - yes! |
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- Posted by lumberjack (My Page) on Tue, Dec 21, 04 at 1:47
| I mentioned a film on my 5 that wasn't a popular choice here, but "In the name of the Father" is a fascinating film about a man falsely (?) accused and imprisoned as an IRA bomber. His father gets himself thrown in the same prison as a form of protest. It is an incredible film and even if nobody wants to discuss it, it is a riveting film that some of you many enjoy. Daniel Day Lewis stars in it. |
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- Posted by Clairabelle (My Page) on Tue, Dec 21, 04 at 9:40
| Okay-dokey for moi. |
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| Chris, is King of Hearts an English-speaking foreign film or is it a foreign film with subtitles? |
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- Posted by lumberjack (My Page) on Wed, Dec 29, 04 at 0:59
| King of Hearts is mostly French with English subtitles, though some of the film is in English as it deals with British Soldiers. I enjoyed the subtitled version better than the dubbed version for some reason. |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Wed, Jan 5, 05 at 15:01
| Clairabelle wants to change the Mar 7 discussion to A Door in the Floor with Jeff Bridges and Kim Basinger. Any objections? Hearing none, the revised schedule is: Jan 3 Super Size Me......Discussion opened by Lumberjack |
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- Posted by paula_in_PA (My Page) on Thu, Jan 6, 05 at 18:54
| I know I haven't put in a 5-list, (can't put it together), but how about adding Monster ?? |
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- Posted by Clairabelle (My Page) on Thu, Jan 6, 05 at 19:18
| thank you thank you thank you I vote IN on Paula's choice. |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Tue, Jan 11, 05 at 2:28
| Okay, but I still expect a short list from you Paula. :D |
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- Posted by paula_in_PA (My Page) on Tue, Jan 11, 05 at 8:59
| Yikes! Homework! Let me ponder this... |
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- Posted by paula_in_PA (My Page) on Fri, Jan 14, 05 at 10:51
| ok - here's my list I second Clairabelle's, after watching last night, The Door in The Floor |
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- Posted by Clairabelle (My Page) on Fri, Jan 14, 05 at 13:02
| Excellent choices, Paula! |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Fri, Jan 14, 05 at 16:20
| Yes, they are excellent. Because The Door in the Floor is already on the schedule, let's go with Monster. May I suggest a double feature? Shall we watch Monster and also the documentary Aileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer and do a contrast and compare? |
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| Sounds like an interesting idea (will I have nightmares afterward?) I'm happy to see Brazil suggested and hope we could see that at some time for discussion. |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Sat, Jan 15, 05 at 0:22
| Petaloid, put it at the top of your list of 5 and we can discuss it after Monster. You are cogitating on your list, right? |
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- Posted by Bill_zone6 (My Page) on Sat, Jan 15, 05 at 8:44
| Good idea Chris! |
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- Posted by paula_in_PA (My Page) on Sat, Jan 15, 05 at 15:33
| Sounds good, I've been meaning to pickup the Aileen Wournous (sp) video. I will soon. So that'll be for March 21, correct? |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Mon, Jan 24, 05 at 11:06
| Current schedule: Jan 31 King of Hearts... .......Chris Paula and Petaloid, do you want to lead the discussion of your respective suggestions? Put in a list of 5 if you haven't already. We are taking turns with everyone's suggestions. Any feedback on the way the group discussions are working so far? |
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- Posted by paula_in_PA (My Page) on Mon, Jan 24, 05 at 11:52
| Fine by me... I think it's going ok - I get a little preachy sometimes though, I'm sorry if I'm overdoing it :-( |
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| I will be happy to lead the discussion on "Brazil." |
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| Going great. The One True Thing discussion gave me a lot to think about and a perspective I had not considered. This is fun! Thanx guys. |
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- Posted by Phillip_in_Alabama (My Page) on Mon, Jan 31, 05 at 11:04
| Sorry I'm late on this but I've been wracking my brain to come up with 5. Secrets & Lies (1996) |
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- Posted by Bill_zone6 (My Page) on Mon, Jan 31, 05 at 12:00
| Good picks Phillip! |
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- Posted by Bill_zone6 (My Page) on Sun, Feb 6, 05 at 18:03
| Chris, I would like to revamp my list: (One True Thing) |
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- Posted by Chris_in_the_Valley (My Page) on Sun, Feb 6, 05 at 23:08
| Updated schedule Feb 14 North By Northwest......Bestlawn/Mallory Once again, everyone feel free to suggest more movies. |
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- Posted by paula_in_PA (My Page) on Mon, Feb 7, 05 at 11:21
| I just want to put in another vote on bestlawn's recommendation , for The Good Mother, after watching this weekend...excellent! |
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So much, Carla I loved it, and there's so much to discuss. The issue is affecting so many people these days, and it seems no one is exempt. I have a personal experience to share. Nothing really serious, just how scared and how closely connected to the film I was. Hopefully, it can be added to the list. |
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| Oops!!! That was you, paula. I read something else from Carla and got jumbled. I'm awfully sorry. |
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- Posted by paula_in_PA (My Page) on Mon, Feb 7, 05 at 15:21
| no problemmmmooooooo bestlawn...I can't see your pic??! The film truly is for everyone who **matures** :-/ |
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| Your idea for a movie is good and i liked it.I will follow the same instructions that you have discussed with all of us. |
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